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Wired Roses help!

Hi everyone! Ive recently been making some gumpaste roses to go on a 3 tier cake. So, I thought I better do them wired, to be able to push them into the higher tiers. I hooked over the end of some 22 gauge wires, dipped in sugar glue then inserted it into my bud. Then ive waited 24 hours for them to dry. Then ive started my layers, letting them dry overnight between each layer. When ive built up to the stage where im on my second layer of 5 petals, the rose getting heavy at this stage, they have come loose from the wire. So, ive left most of them small. Does anyone have any tips or advice as to what might be happening, or what im doing wrong. Ive watched loads of youtube tutorials on this, but any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. Xx

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Ivone - Sugar Penguin Cakery ...

Christine, I dont know if you ever watch Nick Lodge’s method (in his craftsy class) or not… He has a special way for the bud. Basically he covered the wire (thicker gauge wire, like 18 or 20) with floral tape to make a tiny little rounded bud, also cover the wire about half way down. He uses pasteurized egg whites as his glue rather than the gum glue. I have been using his method for all my roses and it work perfectly! Hope that makes sense to you and good luck!

Marlene - CakeHeaven ...

Hi Christine, I usually use three 24 gauge wires taped together with florist tape and then hook the end. I then proceed exactly as you did leaving the flowers to dry at least overnight or for 24 hours between each layer. For wired flowers since they are not edible due to the wire I use egg white for glue as I find that it is stronger. Hope this helps.

SugarMagicCakes (Christine) ...

Oh, this really helps, thanks so much Ivone and Marlene. I’ll try all your methods, thanks again!

Elli Warren ...

Hi Christine, am not sure why its not working for you, when you make the hook do you push it in far enough then pinch the end a little so its sealed? When I make the buds I always make them maybe a week before I need them so they set solid. Ivones way of doing the bud is very good also, this way makes them more secure, but I think if you maybe let them set for longer they should be ok? Let us know how you get on! Look forward to seeing them finished! :-) x

Ivone - Sugar Penguin Cakery ...

Great input, Elli and Marlene! Chef Lodge pointed that when you taped the wire after you pinched the end, the tape prevent the bud from sliding/moving later on.
Looking forward to seeing your flowers, Christine!

SugarMagicCakes (Christine) ...

Thanks Elli and Ivone! Ive made the flowers now, it was the 2 largest ones that fell off, but, theyre going at the bottom of the cake anyway. So, I’ll secure them with royal icing. I’ll definately tape the hook next time, use egg white for glueing and make them more in advance. Thanks again guys ♥

Mrs BonBon ...

Christine, do you use flower picks to put the wires into? Not sure where you are, but in the UK inserting wired directly into the cake is a big No No, as you can get cross contamination.

SugarMagicCakes (Christine) ...

Hi Karen. I use thin cocktail type straws and use royal icing to secure the wire in it. So, when the flowes are pulled out of the cake the straws come out with them. Also the royal icing seals the wires in the straw.

Mrs BonBon ...

Oooo! What a good idea! Much cheaper than flower picks. I sometimes use straws for dowels on two tier cakes, as long as the cake being supported is not too big, it works well. I use ones a bit thicker than cocktail straws.

SugarMagicCakes (Christine) ...

Thanks for the tip Karen, my next cake is a small 2 tier, I will try that :-)

Betty's Bakery (molecular sensations) ...

Hello Christine, I usually make a hook into the wire and burn it (burn the wire-hook with a lighter) into the bud, so the sugar caramelizes & fusions with the wire – that way it never falls off

Happy baking <3 Betty

SugarMagicCakes (Christine) ...

Thanks betty! I’ll give it a try! :-)

Betty's Bakery (molecular sensations) ...

you are so welcome, maybe you let me know how it worked out for you? (- saw your post on my wall too haha) – besos <3

SugarMagicCakes (Christine) ...

I’ll let you know when I make some, it may not be for a while :-)