I really wish I could help you but I don’t know much about either and I know you said you didn’t want a cricut cause of the cartridges. I take it it’s cause of the price of the cartridges. I bought a cake cricut recently cause they went on sale for the holidays and I got mine for 50 bucks. The ones you linked are not cake cutting machines are you just looking for a machine to cut paper products on?
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